Comments on: Dharun Ravi Apologizes for His Actions. Your Thoughts? https://new2.orinam.net/dharun-ravi-apologizes-for-his-actions-your-thoughts/ Hues may vary but humanity does not. Sat, 24 Nov 2012 07:52:18 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7 By: jai desai https://new2.orinam.net/dharun-ravi-apologizes-for-his-actions-your-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-1930 Sat, 24 Nov 2012 07:52:18 +0000 https://new2.orinam.net/?p=6815#comment-1930 is there any courageous bollywood director who could put this true life story to screen? for all indians to learn a lesson called ‘respect’.

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By: Dr. Steve https://new2.orinam.net/dharun-ravi-apologizes-for-his-actions-your-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-1876 Fri, 09 Nov 2012 14:56:47 +0000 https://new2.orinam.net/?p=6815#comment-1876 “To err is human and to forgive divine” but the greatness lies in admitting one’s mistake. If he genuinely meant whatever he said, there is some chance of pardon. But a loss of life is not something to be ignored nor the invasion of someone’s privacy. I hope the punishment equals the pardon, and pray he realized that meddling in others affairs is not fun.

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By: Shishir https://new2.orinam.net/dharun-ravi-apologizes-for-his-actions-your-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-1309 Thu, 31 May 2012 02:01:04 +0000 https://new2.orinam.net/?p=6815#comment-1309 In reply to jk.

JK – you put it so well – I am not Tamilian – but I see some of this even in my extended Multani (Punjabi) side of my family – and beyond. I see it in other Asian families as well. To truly learn compassion, one must first be fearless in seeking and sharing the truth. But so often, we run into censorship – so information and ideas are restricted. We often shoot the truth teller – because sometimes – the truth is not what we want to hear. We build up self-seeking narratives about ourselves and the world and shy away from those who challenge us and bring to us uncomfortable truths.

Of course, this is not to say that knowing the whole truth will automatically make us more compassionate – we may simply lack the courage or goodness to be compassionate.

But posts – such as yours are so refreshing – because they express what is often left unsaid. To unearth buried truths is a great service to humanity at large. Thank you for your brilliant observations.

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By: Shishir https://new2.orinam.net/dharun-ravi-apologizes-for-his-actions-your-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-1308 Thu, 31 May 2012 01:40:29 +0000 https://new2.orinam.net/?p=6815#comment-1308 In reply to jk.

JK – I totally agree. I too felt that the reaction of Dharun’s family was very self-centred and they just couldn’t bring themselves to show any solidarity for the victims family. Apologies can heal when they are made in a timely fashion, and when they are truly heartfelt. Not only that – it is the only way that the person who did something wrong can begin to heal.

Dharun could have saved himself some suffering if he had not tried to act like he did nothing wrong.

But overall – I see this as a bigger indictment of his parents – and of all similar Indian parents who are small-minded and just want to protect their own narrow interests and won’t try to see the bigger picture.

For many Indians, the idea that normal human beings can have sexual impulses – especially the desire to be sexually intimate with someone of the same gender is just too shocking to be legitimate and worthy of respect.

I suspect that if Dharun had a gay roommate who was in the closet or celibate – he might have found it easier to accept. But if he had a problem with a sexually active gay roommate he could have and should have tried to deal with it in a very different and more healthy way.

I think this should be a powerful lesson for Indians everywhere – if you have a problem with someone’s sexual impulses – deal with it – don’t try to victimize the person who is sexually active.

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By: jk https://new2.orinam.net/dharun-ravi-apologizes-for-his-actions-your-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-1304 Wed, 30 May 2012 16:53:18 +0000 https://new2.orinam.net/?p=6815#comment-1304 In reply to Shri.

And I didn’t say it before in my other comments, but thank you Shri for writing that article and prompting that reflective dialogue that needs to happen throughout all South Asian cultures. And for all your work on this site. I’m a huge fan.

In solidarity,
JK

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By: jk https://new2.orinam.net/dharun-ravi-apologizes-for-his-actions-your-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-1302 Wed, 30 May 2012 16:38:48 +0000 https://new2.orinam.net/?p=6815#comment-1302 In reply to jk.

Shri,

I read it already, been following this story. And yeah, it isn’t just Tamilian culture. I’m just speaking to what I know, since I’m Tamilian, and not from another South Asian culture. I don’t think we can proceed from blaming the wider South Asian cultural mileu in terms of fixing these problems – it just smacks of whining that we Tamilians aren’t the ONLY ones who are like this, look at all these other people too!!!! And I think that is really unhelpful. If any South Asian culture wants to reflect on this, it has to start with itself first and then proceed to more broadly shared messages.

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By: Shri https://new2.orinam.net/dharun-ravi-apologizes-for-his-actions-your-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-1300 Wed, 30 May 2012 16:22:25 +0000 https://new2.orinam.net/?p=6815#comment-1300 In reply to jk.

I agree with you what you said JK except that this attitude is common in many South Asian communities not just Tamilians. Here is a related post, if you are interested. https://new2.orinam.net/dharun-and-ravi-two-different-worlds/

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By: jk https://new2.orinam.net/dharun-ravi-apologizes-for-his-actions-your-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-1299 Wed, 30 May 2012 15:09:13 +0000 https://new2.orinam.net/?p=6815#comment-1299 In reply to Shri.

Before he takes a stand against bullying and homophobia and all that, he needs to take a stand to his enabling family and community, who have coddled and babied him his whole life. I DEPLORE how as Tamilians we raise our children to be THIS blind to empathy and compassion and consequence, trying to protect them from the whole world by cocooning them in family dramatics, suffocating them in that fear of the greater world and calling it love. As a culture, we mistake fear for love, narcissism for love, projective identification for love, misogyny and gender tyranny for love, silence for love. It’s in our movies, it’s in our songs. We should take a hard look at what we are really teaching ourselves. It’s seriously backwards and nauseating.

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By: Shri https://new2.orinam.net/dharun-ravi-apologizes-for-his-actions-your-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-1293 Wed, 30 May 2012 10:28:36 +0000 https://new2.orinam.net/?p=6815#comment-1293 I totally agree with Neel’s comment. Dharun’s delayed and calculated apology doesn’t change my feelings. Actions speak louder than words. I hope Dharun takes the counseling and community service, that came with his sentence seriously and evolves as a person. He should learn to treat others with respect and dignity, no matter how different they are from him. Based on his personal experience, Dharun now has an opportunity to stand up against bullying and homophobia. If and when he does, I will take a second look at him.

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By: Sandeep https://new2.orinam.net/dharun-ravi-apologizes-for-his-actions-your-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-1292 Wed, 30 May 2012 08:05:16 +0000 https://new2.orinam.net/?p=6815#comment-1292 Dharun,

your room mate is dead and buried. You will soon be reunited with your loving and narrow minded family. While his family will mourn till their dying breath. Your “regret” and “apology” are pitifully inadequate gestures.

I hope you remember Tyler’s romantic interlude which you intruded upon when you take your first girlfriend to bed. Nothing you can ever say or do will ever compensate for what you did to Tyler.

A fellow Indian and a gay man

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